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- From: mbk@caffeine.engr.utk.edu (Matt Kennel)
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- Subject: Re: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly, and the Wicked ...
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- Date: 27 Mar 1996 21:57:24 GMT
- Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville and Oak Ridge National Laboratory
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- Larry Baker (leb@sdt.com) wrote:
- : Jeff Sutherland wrote:
- : > Last year I wrote an article in Object Magazine called, "Smalltalk,
- : > C++, and OO COBOL: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly." (see
- : > http://www.tiac.net/users/jsuth/papers/oocobol.html) It got quite a
- : > lot of comment so I am updating it this year to include Java,
- : > the Wicked (see http://www.onemind.com/roadkill.html).
-
- : I'm always amused when people try to quantify subjective analyses
- : of "languages," as if they could come up with a single, overall
- : rating of how "good" a language is. This seems to me to be about
- : the same as trying to pick the "best" human language. Which one
- : would you choose? French, English, German, Spanish, Italian,
- : Russian, Swedish, Portugese, Basque, Cockney, Arabic, Latin,
- : Pig Latin, or baby talk?
-
- I think choosing computer languages is not in the slightest
- like choosing a best "human" language as that implies making
- impossible 'objective' judgements of culture and people.
-
- Choosing computer languages is like choosing vaccum pumps.
-
- : The Economic reasons will involve how cheap it is to acquire and
- : use the language. The human reasons will involve unquantifiable
- : terms like how asthetically appealing the language - indeed, the
- : concept of the language - is to the computing population. And the
- : marketing reasons will involve who hypes the best, and who buys
- : into supporting a language in their product(s) as part of their
- : strategy.
-
-
- I'm distirbed by the notion that the "human" reasons are considered
- aesthetic and unquantifiable. They are not quantified or rationalized now
- because there is little scientific progress in this area, but there
- should be.
-
- : Cheers,
-
- : Larry Baker
- : leb@sdt.com
-